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jdogg88   2/4/2010 8:18:47 PM
My GOD the prices on these are skyrocketing.

Basically replaces the old Jace completely. Scry/fateseal. Brainstorm on a stick. Bounce if needed. The finisher isn't likely to see play, nor is it really relevant. This thing is hitting $50-$60 because he's basically the best control planeswalker printed yet.

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Gefahrlich   2/5/2010 3:43:40 PM
What happened to Yu-Gi-Oh! was a warning for other TCG, I don't think wizards are taking that warning seriously. Peolpe are cracking Worldwake packs just for this card which increases it's price, the best example is Baneslayer angel, the whole M10 set was an excuse to print that card and make WOTC even richer, what happens then? you end up buying a whole pack for one mediocre rare and 14 other pieces of garbage just hoping one of these babyes pops out.

Just take a look at the card right after this, do you think anyone is going to play it, or put on a binder?

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SlipStr3am   2/6/2010 5:04:41 AM
lol essential says he's worth $7 LOL totally wrong.

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BiteSize420   2/9/2010 6:57:49 AM
$7 in magic online.

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Neophyte   2/15/2010 3:59:56 AM
Oh wow. Look who's not total garbage anymore. Jace is back apparently, and this time I could actually see myself playing him. Jace, the Mind Sculptor Buy just oozes with utility. He's essentially got the effects of Brainstorm Buy, Unsummon Buy, and like a targeted scry 1 of sorts. The mana cost isn't too bad at all; if it was 5 or more I wouldn't play it. Regarding his last ability, there's nothing equivalent to that in another card. I seriously doubt anybody will see his ultimate ability in any deck other than turbofog or something. And that's rare enough. However, this is perhaps the most obvious "you win the game" ultimate ability out of all planeswalkers. I'm kind of perturbed they'd print that, but I'm comforted that the fastest a deck can get it off without accel is turn 9. Also it dies immediately upon entering play to the infamous Lightning Bolt Buy.

The originality is really good. It's like a bunch of cards combined into one, with a little extra. Controls your draws, your opponent's, has removal, and is a win condition all in one. It doesn't have any real drawback to get card advantage unlike the first Jace.
The art is decent. Compisation is nice.

Overall, an exceptionally good card. Unfortunately, the only thing stopping this card from seeing play for many is it's insane price. I mean wow. WOW. So Starcity was selling it as a preorder for 20$. Now they're selling it for 60$, and buying it for 35$. I've seen the thing go as high as 70$ for ONE copy. Seriously? It's more expensive than Baneslayer Angel Buy? Than Tarmogoyf Buy? Come on. There has got to have been some unnecessary spike in it's price as a result of hype. I haven't seen even one see play in standard at all, but I have seen it in extended.

A blatant chase rare, and I don't know where they're even going. Looks like people are buying them and leaving them in their binders. Again, good card, but I will never spend that much money on cardboard. Especially if it's still in print.

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SeVi   2/19/2010 12:12:37 AM
I completely agree.

Obviously the new Jace is extremely good. I think its probably the new blue swiss army knife for blue control (i.e a new cryptic command thats a permanent).

However, Im pretty disappointed with wizards myself for the above reasons. I tend to be a control player in standard, and it has been tough prior to worldwake playing standard control. The thing that pisses me off about Jace is that it was almost impossible to get him. With Baneslayer, I was able to get a playset before the prices went up. Unfortunately, even if I wanted to pay 60 ea for a playset, I can't get them. I have one which I got in my single booster box, but 1 is as little as 0 in constructed.

Point is, when it gets to the point when players cant get playsets of cards they stop playing. Magic is becoming like capitalism, the only ones who play are the rich few at the top. So, I love magic - but if I cant play control competively at my local FNM in standard, I'll just stick to extended.

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Justice1337   3/11/2010 3:38:02 PM
Jace does not die upon entering play to Lightning Bolt. Active player gets priority after it resolves, plays a sorcery speed ability that goes on the stack and stays regardless of whether the walker stays in play. L2rulesplz.

So, at worst this is a brainstorm that causes your opponent to discard bolt. The price of this one is justified.

And if you're having problems getting them, just get a good quality printer to make a realistic looking proxy. There's plenty of articles on-line about how to wax paper properly also. When was the last time you ever saw a local FNM judge check people's cards? You don't really start to see that happen until pro tour, even PTQ's you're safe.

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Neophyte   3/12/2010 2:56:17 PM
I checked the comprehensive rules and forgot about how exactly passing priority worked (I blame my storm deck), so how about 2 lightning bolts? Yeah, what now. 60$ is still in the graveyard. Hope you enjoyed paying {2}{U}{U} to scry 1 somebody.

On a related note, Troll and Toad are now selling regular copies of Jace for 100$ each.


Ridiculous.
Quoting Justice1337:And if you're having problems getting them, just get a good quality printer to make a realistic looking proxy. There's plenty of articles on-line about how to wax paper properly also. When was the last time you ever saw a local FNM judge check people's cards? You don't really start to see that happen until pro tour, even PTQ's you're safe.

That may be the case in Utah. I've never seen any Tourny's here in KY to allow proxies other than lands in a draft.
Quoting SeVi:Point is, when it gets to the point when players cant get playsets of cards they stop playing. Magic is becoming like capitalism, the only ones who play are the rich few at the top. So, I love magic - but if I cant play control competively at my local FNM in standard, I'll just stick to extended.

I don't think it's at the point where the only one's placing high in tourny's are rich. However, you do have to put a lot of money into standard decks. Some are just getting worse about it, and **** like this is NOT helping.

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EternalDarkness   3/14/2010 2:42:25 PM
This is probably the worst case scenario for the naysayers when mythic rares were first introduced. A chase mythic rare. And I can't see why it shouldn't be chase. This card is amazingly powerful. I don't think prices on this one will drop noticeably after it rotates out though since it appears to have some application in Legacy. Just check out the GP Madrid coverage.

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SeVi   3/16/2010 11:47:08 AM
Jace > Baneslayer.

If you opp runs out of cards, you win.

If your opponent has no answer in hand when you play Jace, you almost always win.

My earlier comments hold, but since it IS printed, its definately worth the cost. I'm happy UW is so t1 again Happy

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Ryubladegemini   4/17/2010 11:42:25 PM
The only bad thing about Jace version 2.0 is that he only starts with 3 loyalty, putting him within Lightning Bolt range, and in order to get him out, you have to use his +2 ability a few times. But when a card's biggest downside is that your opponent will want to kill it, and it has an ability that will prevent that to some degree, you're looking at a downright amazing card. The best part is that one of Jace's best abilities costs 0 loyalty to use. You can keep on using it!

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vapidaphid   5/15/2010 11:17:52 PM
Stupidly good. If you're running standard blue, it's almost a necessity. His last ability is just too retarded to even think about.

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aznepyon7   5/26/2010 4:17:20 AM
The best Planeswalker there is. Only thing close is Elspeth/Tez.

The only problem I see with him is that he costs 4 mana. In vintage/legacy, you don't want to be spending that much mana. But that's being really nitpicky about something this great, besides, Mana Drain Buy exists.

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dragolord88   6/10/2010 12:27:17 AM
I ****ing love this card.

This is what Jace Beleren Buy should have been and is basically the ulimate control card for any control deck. From Standard to Vintage, you will see this planeswalker sculpting the minds of others.

Jace, the Wallet Slayer, is a reusable Brainstorm Buy, Fateseal 1 (Spin into Myth Buy), Unsummon Buy and then a finisher that is a hybrid of Time Spiral Buy and Nightmare Incursion Buy pumped full of steroids.

The idea is that Jace doesn't win the game on the spot, but creates a powerful inevitability that becomes more and more powerful the longer your opponent is stalled out. He will first Brainstorm to refill your hand and help you get whatever answers you need to stop your opponent. Once you gain control, you then fateseal them and screw their drawing into just junk or lands. Once you fateseal enough times, Jace can then just finish them off. Jace can also unsummon big nasties to allow you to counter them if the opponent casts them again.

The only disadvantage of Jace is that he costs way too much money (6-9-2010). Otherwise, he is one the, if not the, best control planeswalker and arguably the best planeswalker overall.


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Neophyte   6/15/2010 9:42:47 PM
Oh my gooooooood these things are still going up. Starcity is selling them for 80$ mint, mtgmint is selling it for 74$ish, troll and toad actually lowered their prices on it to 75$, and bidwicket's prices average to 77$ish, with the lowest going for 70$. I expect this to decrease in price once it rotates out of extended, possibly standard. But this is just sad. I feel bad for anybody buying these for full price. Sad

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