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The Dawnbringer   5/29/2005 6:07:47 AM
the pretty is good... I have never seen anything like it before however a few of the cards that are in that deck do not ned to be in it. other than that I really enjoy the deck nice job.

Last Modified: 5/29/2005 6:10:10 AM     

Leviathan   4/9/2009 11:15:09 AM
That's a classic style deck, I love them, but this one is quite unconsistant, discard is powerful but not enought and it seems to perform really slow.

I'd cut out all 6 artifacts (specially tha black vise, why do u want it if you plan to discard your opponent?), breeding pit and the lord of the pit also are really bad, and fallen angel should be replaced for something better.

I strongly suggest you add in there 4 Duress Buy or even Thoughtseize Buy + 4 Dark Ritual Buy. These are a must. Then I'd also suggest u to add some Nantuko Shade Buy or Looming Shade Buy in it's absence. Also would try to make room for 4 slots of card-drawing/acceleration like Dark Confidant Buy, Night's Whisper Buy, or Dream Salvage Buy.

To keep the board clear you may want to add Rathi Trapper Buy to do the trick with Royal Assassin. If u keep it with low-cost creatures u also may find useful Unearth Buy to bring them back to play, it also works with specter and shades. If you go that way I'd replace all paralysis and drain life for some edict.

PS: this deck isn't Combo-based neither TQ, anyway seems fun enought to play with, hope you could improve it a little bit.

Last Modified: 4/9/2009 11:37:10 AM     

Leviathan   5/20/2009 7:11:13 PM
Really can't appreciate the changes you've made other than Dark Ritual, wich is a good point, I think. Anyway the whole thing with this deck stills the same, you have a solid core of a good mono black but then you fill the rest with cards that doesn't work alongside with your main strategy or even contradictory with it like Black Vise Buy, Ivory Tower Buy, Howling Mine Buyetc. And what make it worst is that they are random spells, wich may be good to divert your oponent but in fact it goes against you because it doesn't allow you preparing or foreseeing your next moves. At the time you draw one of that artifacts imo you'd wanna draw instead some devastating stuff and shut them down definitively, wich is possible in momo {B}.

I know sometimes there are cards you simply wanna play, because you've played them since your first good deck or simply you like it so much or because it seems that it offers some kind of versatility or alternative play but belive me, it's always better get stick to one main strategy (or two) and take it to it's maximum, but having all that random stuff really goes against you.

I strongly suggest you try to obtain 4 Duress Buy, I ensure you'll love opening with ritual + duress + hymn, I think it's one of my favorite moves in magic. Still thinking that Fallen Angel Buy is weak.

Last Modified: 5/20/2009 7:33:45 PM     

Dweeble   4/18/2010 9:46:32 PM
Haha, funny deck. Gotta love necropotence, and the hatred just for the helluvit.

Biggest problem right now is the costs for all of your creatures (all 3-drops or more). You have almost no one-drops except your combo artifacts and paralyze.

Still, rituals ought to help you get some of those baddies out there if you draw them.

NOTE: your library of leng will make it impossible to draw cards from necropotence (you skip your discard phase)

This deck takes me back..Keep up the good work and keep tweaking!

Last Modified: 4/18/2010 9:54:01 PM     

lavatard   8/28/2010 5:52:41 PM
ohhh man this takes me back. i started playing for fun in ninth edition, ravnica. back when i was just learning the mechanics of the game. my cousine played blue black counter discard. and for fun played one royal assassin, and one icy manipulator. first combo i`d ever seen. took me six months and consulting with other magic players to learn how to play against it. so i built a mono green machine, using cards like leyline of life force and troll ascetic. once i started winning consistently, he quite playing. ha ha ha. great deck you got going there.

Last Modified: 8/28/2010 5:56:54 PM     

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