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ValorsDream   5/28/2005 8:43:44 AM
Just out of curiosity, how did the test run against an opponent go for this deck?

Last Modified: 5/28/2005 8:45:25 AM     


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LordFozz   5/28/2005 9:00:48 PM
Great Idea and Deck, the only thing i was thinking was can Enduring Ideal Buy get Genju of the Realm Buy? If a ruleing comes and says no, then possiably use Ghostly Prison Buy.

Last Modified: 5/28/2005 9:07:25 PM     


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Dark Dragon88   5/28/2005 9:09:53 PM
not a bad deck but think about adding Furnace of Rath Buy in for the double damage.

Last Modified: 5/28/2005 9:10:34 PM     


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Toolz of the Trade   5/28/2005 9:44:13 PM
Alright this may seem a little off but bear with me...

Hondens. Suck. ... Still with me? In this deck they are terrible. Just think. It takes 3 turns to set up, while dealing with all your opponents threats. Wow, 1 damage.. then 2... then 3... but your still getting beat in the face. They are too slow, plus you'll be grabbing other things so you don't die. Take out the hondens except for the white one. Add in 1 zur's weirding so you can have a soft lock. Next add in a worship. If your about to die and you have worship in play you can activate genju of the realm and stay alive. Take out meishin too. Add in ghostly prison.

Add in any other enchantments you might want that aren't hondens. It should work a little better.

Last Modified: 5/28/2005 9:49:07 PM     


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Kamahl-Champion   5/28/2005 9:47:08 PM
wow, that is nice. i see no way to improve.

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GobboMaster   5/29/2005 2:06:54 AM
looks really funny and i think its very original!

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sämpylä   5/29/2005 6:07:06 AM
Looks great. I have nothing to say

Last Modified: 5/29/2005 6:07:38 AM     


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Gouldy   5/29/2005 8:16:55 AM
Personally I think replace Crop Rotation Buy & Tithe Buy with a double land searcher like Kodama's Reach Buy; as you get a net gain of land and it'll solve the {W}{W} requiremend of Enduring Ideal Buy

You may also want to use Twincast Buy or Mirari Buy to get more use out of it and your other spells.

Also you may want to reduce your enchantment toolbox; it takes up too much space. I'd kill Zur's Weirding Buy, Sylvan Library Buy, Sterling Grove Buy, Rule of Law Buy, Penancel, Honden of Cleansing Fire Buy & Ghostly Prison Buy as theyre all underpowered and don't abuse Enduring Ideal Buy enough.

Otherwise, its a pretty cool idea. Enjoy!

Last Modified: 5/29/2005 8:26:40 AM     


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Gauslender   5/29/2005 4:50:35 PM
add the PandeBurst combo to win.

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Squenguin   5/29/2005 9:21:15 PM
You only 3 have basic lands in your deck. You are playing 2 kodama's reach. That math doesn't work out to be a good play.
Transcendence is terrible. The only time you should ever play it is with Sulfuric Vortex Buy, which isn't in here.
Opalessence is bad here. You should have the mind cage out, which means you are just making your enchantments more vulnerable to wrath of god and the like. If you want creatures, try honden of life's web. Which brings me too...
You have no way to deal with enchantments and artifacts across the table from you. You should be playing Honden of Life's Web Buy with Aura Shards Buy. The Honden boosts your other one and provides a steady stream of optional artifact/enchantment removal.
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You are not playing enough land. You are trying to power out a 7 mana spell as fast as you can. What makes you think 20 lands is enough to do that? Cut Kodama's Reach, cut Personal Tutor (4 is enough), play some more land.

Last Modified: 5/29/2005 9:40:14 PM     


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oneill90   5/29/2005 9:46:40 PM
i know that trandescend sucks, but i cant think of another good enchanment that is worthy of enduring ideal. If you have any good ideas feel free to enlighten me. Also, the reason i only run 20 lands is because of all the acceleration: chrome mox, sol ring, sylvan scrying, BOP, tithe, kodamas reach, sakura tribe elder. However u are right that i dont have enough basic lands. I added four now which is enough and dropped a Kodama's reach for A STE(sakura tribe elder)

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souljah62489   5/30/2005 12:21:06 AM
Academy Rector, Cabal Therapy are needed
Also there's got to be a better way of getting mana then cloudpost

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dragoonmiko   5/30/2005 2:03:09 AM
This looks very fun and effective.

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pacsun   5/30/2005 3:02:47 AM
well... i have looked over this deck and read all comments very carefully, and this is what i came up with.
1) It's really random
2) I love the idea!
3) Too many different mana combos
4) Have you ever considered the idea getting a hand with no mana and every enchantment you cant pay for anywayz?
5) Needs to be more based around a color.
6) Forget the blue you don't need brainstorm that much.
7) I'll check it out again later and give more ideas. not rating yet

Last Modified: 5/30/2005 3:13:15 AM     


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oneill90   5/30/2005 3:32:10 AM
the blue is for the tutors, and no i have not considered a hand without any lands because so far from playtesting it that has not happened. However, i would appreciate any constructive criticism that you may have.

Last Modified: 5/30/2005 3:33:18 AM     



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