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Alvansonso   6/10/2006 10:29:38 AM
Before I rate your deck... consider this scenario please.

You have a Dark Confidant Buy that gives you massive card advantage however...

you have 14 creatures/spells that have a casting cost of 4 and above...

that's around 1 in every 5 cards you draw that will possibly deal 4-6 damage on your upkeep. Without a possible way to regain lost life, you will take massive damage without your opponents trying.

Drawing a Kokusho, the Evening Star Buy with the confidant is a direct 6 to the dome. at turn 2 confidant and a turn 3 draw of a kokusho, you will be taking 6 damage already on turn 3.

Not a good scenario to start with. If you observe, the Confidant is only placed in decks with around 2-3 Casting Cost curve like boros, ghost husks or mono white splash black..

reconsider this and maybe you'd like to change the deck's mana curve, or replace Dark Confidant with Phyrexian Arena Buy

Last Modified: 6/10/2006 10:34:05 AM     


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jake123   6/10/2006 1:53:58 PM
i feel the only problem is you are trying to do too much with one deck...i feel the one bird of paradise is a wasted space...don't get me wrong, i am certain that when you draw him, he is a big help, but how often do you draw him??? Card games are all about odds. here's the example: one BOP in a deck of sixty= a 1.67% chance you are going to draw him...run 4 and those odds go to 6.67% of the next card being the birds....you probably already new this, but i just wanted to prove my point...one of's are bad...i like the idea of congregation at dawn, and i think the mana for it is fine...but please, do your self a favor and make the dek more consistent by axing the 1 of's...and i agree with the above statement made on BOB...

Last Modified: 6/10/2006 2:03:41 PM     


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MravataR   6/10/2006 2:17:39 PM
to alvansonso:
thanks for the hint
i didnt think of the extrem lifeloss(didnt think to much at all about this card) so thats why i made this mistake

to jake123:
the one bird is no problem
i dont need him but if i get him its good(normally i prefer the elves.
in fact i stole the mana base of the deck from Katsu hiromori (yes the one who won the worlds 2005)
could you maybe place a comment on the creatures or the spells please

to all: thx for rating

Last Modified: 6/10/2006 3:30:37 PM     


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Rob Zombie   6/11/2006 2:54:07 PM
thanks for rating my deck, rtheres nothing to rethink though. heartbeat loses straight up to zoo. gruul gives it problems and husk can be very hard to handle at times.


looks pretty good, greater good decks straight up lose to any form of control though/ which i dont really like but since most decks are aggresive thats fine.

Last Modified: 6/11/2006 2:55:50 PM     


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J 2the oshua   6/11/2006 9:50:11 PM
nice deck. The only thing is where is Golgari Grave-Troll Buy this guy is a serious beater for a deck like this one. You should think about it. Other than that it seems pretty good. I don't like the germanization.

Last Modified: 6/11/2006 9:52:32 PM     


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MravataR   6/12/2006 2:02:27 PM
to robzombie:
thanks to the comment
i think i have a chance against control but there is a clear advantage from the control side
latest time i only see creature decks in the top 8 so there is a trend to creature decks that i can beat
to ranma3338
thanks for the comment
iam thinking of the grave troll already but i am not sure yet
thanks for the comment on germination

Last Modified: 6/12/2006 2:04:53 PM     


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Atlantafootball   6/13/2006 3:43:17 PM
ok first of all thanks for the rate but horror is awsome in here because when Leyline of Singularity is out when i play the 7/7 the 2 centours comes in they die becuase there both legindory.please rate again or change comment

Last Modified: 6/13/2006 3:45:24 PM     


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Kyuuden-Kami   6/13/2006 3:53:06 PM
your deck is great.
i may not understand the whole strategy (therefore i don't rate it), but i think it is done very well.
i wish i could creat such decks.

PS: thanks for your rating and your comment on my deck^^

Last Modified: 6/13/2006 3:58:16 PM     


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MravataR   6/13/2006 4:52:31 PM
to kyuuden-kami
the deck is designed to get six mana available in the third turn ==>Kokusho block/attack sacrifice to greater good for the win
Phyrexian arena for card advantage
umezawas jitte bumping the wood elves or of course the bigger threats
congregation is to bring me the creatures needed at the moment
other cards have same effects as already named
lands try to give me the right mana at the right time

maybe you can rate now^^
thx

Last Modified: 6/13/2006 4:55:57 PM     


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PR3DA7OR1AL   6/13/2006 4:58:13 PM
Go to your local vendor and trade someone one of your evening stars for 3 more birds. You don't really need more then 2 dragons anyways, unless you are expecting to take another and make opponent lose 10 life and you gain 10. Not sure if that'd be worth it. Two-three Gleancrawler Buy would be nice.

Last Modified: 6/13/2006 4:59:57 PM     


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crypt   6/13/2006 9:38:25 PM
this looks like a pretty good build but i think u should take out the congregation and put in hypies they would be very nice in here. and also take out the elves of deep shadow for more birds. But other than those things it looks like a very nice deck. Please r8 my SHELL IN THE KNELL deck.

Last Modified: 6/13/2006 9:41:38 PM     


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MravataR   6/14/2006 12:02:57 PM
to make you all feel better i will YES I WILL put in 4 birds no comments on that any more!!

thx to crypt
i really dont play hyppies in here because tzhats not what i want to do+
this is beatdown no control or discard
the congregation is cheaper and gives me three creature cards (thats exactly what i need after creating a good mana base!!!!)

Last Modified: 6/14/2006 12:05:18 PM     


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raging_yellow   6/14/2006 6:25:24 PM
Thanks for rating my deck.

While the deck looks pretty good, I would suggest running one or two Mortify Buy along with your Putrefy Buys or replace the Last Gasp Buys in your sideboard with Mortify Buys. Another thing that I would suggest is to try and fit in something like Punishment (Crime/Punishment) for those times when you need to wipe out tons of low casting cost things. I would also cut down the number of Umezawa's Jitte Buy to two or three since four seems a bit excessive.

As for Debtors' Knell Buy and Golgari Germination Buy, I think that the Knell is slightly better for you because it provides more card drawing opportunities and allows you to recur some very painful things like Kokusho, the Evening Star Buy.

Last Modified: 6/14/2006 6:31:27 PM     


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MravataR   6/15/2006 7:33:03 PM
to raging_yellow:
thx for the rating
best rating i got so far
thx for your comment on germination and debtors'knell
i agree with you
the SB will definately change to:
-last gasp
+mortify
punishement will also be added soon(didnt know the dissension cards very well so i just oversaw this)
i will think about the reduktion of umezawa's jitte but i think this card is really a key card (wood elves other elves are good to sacrifice after bumping -greater good-

thx a lot

Last Modified: 6/15/2006 7:37:14 PM     


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Kyuuden-Kami   6/16/2006 12:43:04 PM
thanks for the descriptions about the strategy. now everything is clear to me and i can only say: great idea. you can get enough mana, the creatures are cool and every card supports your whole deck^^
i really can't find anything bad in your deck.

Last Modified: 6/16/2006 12:51:56 PM     



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