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mana   6/25/2006 1:54:14 PM
michiel dit is echt een klote deck ik haat het maar ik ga je verslaan







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qube   6/27/2006 4:45:32 AM
you didn't see me play this deck yet Happy

Last Modified: 6/27/2006 4:46:21 AM     


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naudasd   7/5/2006 5:03:08 PM
Looks pretty good. I suggest stuff like Shielding Plax Buy for the Orochi Leafcaller, and Final Judgment Buy for those really hard to wipe out creatures. Also, Privileged Position Buy is great since you don't even need to switch mana around.
One drawback is that I have seen a LOT of honden decks.

Last Modified: 7/5/2006 5:07:53 PM     


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kim_k   7/6/2006 8:41:26 AM
because its the kamigawa block youre runnning. its aint a block deck. (http://essentialmagic.com/Rules/Formats.asp) its a type 2 deck.

Last Modified: 7/6/2006 8:42:33 AM     


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qube   7/8/2006 4:05:27 AM
naudasd:
Final Judgment is indd a good call (i only need a second Leafcaller in my hand, or enough diffrent mana. its correct that i can't do much agains a creature with more then 3 toughness (only then to gain more life then to have taken away). Allas i want to keep it mono-kamigawa but you its a good idea to make my leafcaller immune to spells

kim_k: (i Quote: )
Block Format Deck Construction
The DCI sanctions a series of Constructed formats called Block formats. Each Block format consists of a maximum of three expansions (one large expansion and the two small expansions associated with it).
New card sets are allowed in Block format tournaments as described in Section 104.
The DCI sanctions the following Block formats:
• Time Spiral™ Block (Time Spiral effective Oct 20, 2006)
• Ravnica™ Block (Ravnica: City of Guilds™, Guildpac™t, Dissension™)
• Kamigawa™ Block (Champions of Kamigawa™, Betrayers of Kamigawa™, Saviors of
Kamigawa™)
• ...

- please explain why the fact that it isn't a block format, makes the playability, synergy and orginality very bad? if you give a comment, you are not forced to rate. if your rate, then do it wisely. how would you feel if i start rating your decks with minimum score.

Last Modified: 7/8/2006 4:25:13 AM     


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hypaflight   7/14/2006 4:05:39 PM
nice way to play with the hondens. maybe some defense in the form of ghostly prison is good. basically youll have to hold of your opps while you wait for this deck to do its thing. maybe a petalmane baku is needed too for the mana accel. nice idea in the deck though. keep it up. kindly rate my nephilim deck back. thanks.

Last Modified: 7/14/2006 4:08:46 PM     


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mana   7/31/2006 8:42:19 AM
maybe you could use a good defender just in case id sugdest a 5/5 wall from dissention.

Last Modified: 7/31/2006 8:43:39 AM     


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Uncle Istvan (1)   8/19/2006 9:18:01 PM
Here's my suggestions; you should diversify your mana base a lot more; since Eradicate Buy/Cranial Extraction Buy on your Orochi Leafcaller Buy and the games over for you; you'd be done casting stuff for the rest of the game. Why not take out the Orochi Leafcaller Buy, and add 4 Sakura-Tribe Elder Buy and 2 more Kodama's Reach Buy. It'd also let you power out your Honden's faster, since it's mana accel, not just mana filtering. Of course, you'd change the mana around so that you can have enough of the right colour to play everything, but I'll leave the tinkering and fine-tunning up to you. I also think you should drop the Genju of the Realm Buy, Final Judgment Buy, and if you go with my earlier idea, the Traproot Kami Buy, since you won't have as many forests and your Sakura-Tribe Elder Buy will help chump-block in the begining. I think instead of the Final Judgment Buy, you should up the number of Devouring Greed Buy's, since this can be a better finisher with multiple Honden of Life's Web Buy's out. More Honden of Seeing Winds Buy would be helpful as well to get to the good stuff you need. And you can drop the land down by 1 or 2, depending on what you want to put in. So I think this would sum up what I would do;
-4 Orochi Leafcaller Buy
-4 Traproot Kami Buy
-1 Final Judgment Buy
-1 Genju of the Realm Buy
-1 or 2 Land

+4 Sakura-Tribe Elder Buy
+2 Kodama's Reach Buy
+3 Devouring Greed Buy
+2 or 3 Honden of Seeing Winds Buy
And change the lands around so everything works smoothley. Anyway, have fun with the deck; I think it's a little slow, but might work well in multiplayer formats, or fun/casual games.

Last Modified: 8/19/2006 9:39:54 PM     


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qube   8/20/2006 1:40:57 PM
ooh, you make some good suggestions. indeed it solved 2 of my biggest problems: the Orochi Leafcaller Buy weakness and the slow speed.

by kicking out Orochi Leafcaller Buy, Genju of the Realm Buy and Traproot Kami Buy indeed get meaningless.

I would however not like to drop Final Judgment Buy: for fear of the Kodama of the North Tree Buy and any other "cant be target of spells or abilities (your opponent controls)" but as i think of it: i'll never pull the card when i need.

so, Uncle Istvan, i'll be making all the changes you proposed. thanks for the advice.

Last Modified: 8/20/2006 1:49:37 PM     


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the fandango   8/23/2006 5:15:26 AM
in the current format, creature r the primary win (obviously), but u have no way to stop them... i'd suggest Ghostly Prison Buy or a board sweeper of some sort. other than that, this looks good.

Last Modified: 8/23/2006 5:17:25 AM     


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samuraidemon   8/24/2006 12:39:09 AM
deck looks good but I might put another mirror gallery in. other then that it looks good.

Last Modified: 8/24/2006 12:40:01 AM     


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qube   8/25/2006 4:59:19 AM
added Ghostly Prison Buy -> works good with the epic spell (hondons are legendary: now i can cast the epic spell without mirror gallery)
(3 hondons and 4 ghostly prisons)

i won't add more then 3 mirror galleries: its not my intention to have it in my starthand; only after some turns (at least 5, when i have enough mana) as a personal general rule, "4 cards = want it in start hand" so thats why 3 is enough

Last Modified: 8/25/2006 5:02:45 AM     


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qube   9/4/2006 4:53:55 AM
thx Syrup, i get your point. but seeing as this is a block-deck, Wrath of God Buy would be Final Judgment Buy, which not helps vs goblins decks (to expencive), and there are no good substitutes for Seal of Fire Buy. a '1 damage to all creatures' would fit nicly in my sideboard though

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Syrup   9/16/2006 1:44:07 AM
I really can say much but mabye replace elders with Birds. I see almost nothing wrong in this deck except mabye it is sorta slow at the start.

Last Modified: 9/16/2006 1:47:03 AM     


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collosus   9/17/2006 2:37:05 PM
lovely.
i'm not a big fan of the "epic"
ability. but with mirror gallery
in play, your shrinies are going to
have fun.

plz rate my
hypnotic vessel
barbarian blood bringers
and my land destruction

thnx

Last Modified: 9/17/2006 2:38:25 PM     



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