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weehood   4/6/2008 1:38:52 AM
i would say replace at least 2 of the overruns with primal rage

since you have coat of arms anyway, you don't need 4 overrun and also garruk has an overrun built in

pls rate my saproling sacrifice deck or my treefolk deck

Last Modified: 4/6/2008 1:41:07 AM     


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fattymcgee   4/11/2008 3:07:33 AM
You know what, i have the same problem. People always leave these lame comments on my decks like, "Oh, nice deck", and other crap like that.

Unlike me, however, I leave half way decent advice. And if I see that your deck is good enough to not need anything, I simply say that. And if you feel that my deck doesnt deserve a rate, then so be it.


Anyways, overall, a pretty nice deck.
Nothing really to add without unbalancing this deck.

Last Modified: 4/11/2008 3:11:55 AM     


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bend   4/11/2008 4:30:56 AM
Truthfully, this deck doesn't deserve five stars unless it can consistently battle it out with the top eight net decks so I am compelled to compare it to other E.M. decks. This deck is better than most of the decks posted here so my rating will reflect that it is kind of like inflation. This deck which I think would do average(3 score overall), would rip most of the decks posted here new a-holes(5 score overall. sorry about the rant here is my opinion on the deck.

I think you are heavy on the 4cc spells and you will have a hard time with the amount of removal I am used to. If you get your one drop toasted you will have a hard time catching up. Your strategy seems to me to be about quick wins so why the need for Harmonize. A Wrath effect you probably won't rebound from anyway so I would drop that for some 2cc spells probably Wren's Run Vanquisher, Wolf-Skull Shaman, or both. When you drop Garruk it is nice to untap 2 lands and drop a 3/3 instead of a 1/1.

Sorry about the perfect score I will lower them to what I think they should be compared to tournament staples if you want.

Last Modified: 4/11/2008 4:49:17 AM     


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pein   4/15/2008 3:41:37 AM
lol - you're probably right, bro. I put in the Harmonize Buy(s) because, at the tournament, people were rooting me on on like turn 4, when I got out like 38 tokens, for more with Harmonize Buy.

You're also right about the amount of removal used in tournaments, since I only went 4-0 most likely because I didn't play either of the 2 people with Wrath of God Buy or Damnation Buy.

Also, I actually would like an honest rating from you- maybe also a lil' more criticism with it (although what you gave is good too). Anyways, thanks a lot for your comment! Peace!

PS: Believe it or not, I find that Wolf-Skull Shaman Buy and Wren's Run Packmaster Buy are way too slow for or against this deck.

Last Modified: 4/17/2008 6:00:04 AM     


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Lyrsen   4/15/2008 4:38:02 AM
I like it, but really any deck with a fair amount of removal will win over this deck. I typically play decks with 8-16 removal cards preferably in a deck (I know most of my decks listed on this site don't have that many, but I try and put them in.) One well placed Darkblast Buy, or sac'ed Mogg Fanatic Buy to your Heritage Druid Buy will completly destroy the combo, not that it's a must for you to win.

I really don't know what to reccomend to keep it standard. Chameleon Colossus Buy would be a nice addition to the beats though, i don't think it'd really slow you down, just take out another 4cc card(I'd say 1 garuuk and 1 overrun for 2 Chameleon Colossus.)

To your rant, I completely agree.

(I rated it to some of the best tourney quality decks I've seen in tourneys)

Last Modified: 4/15/2008 4:54:58 AM     


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pein   4/15/2008 11:46:54 PM
Thanks for comment and criticism! - lol you're probably right - how did I not think of Chameleon Colossus Buy?

Anyways, thanks again - I'll check out your decks mate, and see if yours could use a lil' help. Peace!

Last Modified: 4/15/2008 11:48:25 PM     


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xthoughtlesx   4/16/2008 9:41:39 AM
I made this deck and i love it. There are a rediculous amount of tokens in play, regaurdless of what your starting hand may consist of. Rock on.

Last Modified: 4/16/2008 9:43:34 AM     


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pein   4/16/2008 6:53:25 PM
That's nice to know m8!

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Elementalx   4/17/2008 12:10:22 AM
If your deck actually worked out that way it would be sweet, Doubling Season Buy would have been the only thing I would have suggested, but then it loses tournament qualityness.

If you could suggest some cards for this deck I'd appriciate it, I have it as U r8 I r8 because I want as many different opinions and suggestions as I can get on it. Suggestions are great.

Last Modified: 4/17/2008 12:14:57 AM     


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pein   4/17/2008 6:31:30 AM
It seriously can turn out that way, and in almost every game will - it would just be on turn 4 or 5 instead of 3 (to have more than 10 creatures out).
If you have Elvish Promenade Buy in your starting hand, you should definitely be able to get out A BUNCH of creatures out really early.

Last Modified: 4/17/2008 11:30:06 PM     


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SquishyFTW   4/18/2008 1:33:08 AM
I dont play in any tournaments, so I dont even know if time spiral is still considered standard. If it is, however, consider swapping a forest or two for Pendelhaven Buy. It's basically the exact same thing as a forest, except it can protect your key 1/1 elves from things like darkblast (for example) if needed. Nice deck

Last Modified: 4/18/2008 1:35:32 AM     


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omura   4/18/2008 1:35:53 AM
Be carefull of the Wrath of God. I've played against this deck before and is not that great.Not to put you down or anything is just my opinion. Is a fast creature deck but once you clear the table there's really not much left. But if you would run it in Block Tournaments the deck would kick ass.

Last Modified: 4/18/2008 1:40:46 AM     


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pein   4/18/2008 1:37:24 AM
Thanks for comment (and rate)! Great idea, m8!

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cliffrider   4/18/2008 10:57:16 AM
Coat of Arms is a nice card don't get me wrong but, if you're p[laying any other tribal deck they get the +1/+1 too. I'd sideboard it. Maybe bring it in 2nd or 3 rd game.

Last Modified: 4/18/2008 10:59:45 AM     


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Deathgames   4/18/2008 11:33:32 AM
ok, i like this deck, but your only kill is really a coat of arms. If you played that against most of my deckes, you would give me the game. Mabe try some lys-anna huntmasters for more elves. Also, some thing like pyroclasm would end your game quick. Mabe use some imperous prefects to boost and create some more elves. This is a good deck, but it could be better.

Last Modified: 4/18/2008 11:37:22 AM     



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