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Dark 1   1/1/1900
Looks like a solid burn deck.

Might i suggest adding some Pyroclasm Buys to take out hordes of weenies. Or even Cave-In Buy if you want to surprise your enemy when you're all tapped out, plus it hurts all players which could be good or bad.

Last Modified: 4/30/2009 10:27:37 PM     


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chocobox   4/26/2009 8:17:50 AM
your deck really does put the game in a fast track.

how about some simian spirit guide to help accelearate mana?

Last Modified: 4/26/2009 8:20:04 AM     


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Bloodstain   4/26/2009 4:06:50 PM
Whats with your land?? You have no green spells and Wooded Foothills Buy is totally useless since you also have no Forest or Mountains...

reckless abandon+ball lightning works well

Last Modified: 4/26/2009 4:19:23 PM     


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crimsonking001   4/26/2009 6:38:14 PM
Bloodstain dude you can use Wooded Foothills Buy to fetch Taiga Buy since its both a Mountain Buy and a Forest Buy at the same time and is affected by any spell or ability that affects either one, plus it also helps in alleviating the problem with most burn decks where you draw a land card at the most inappropriate timeGood and the reason why I needed Taiga Buy is that I have a sideboard thats going to need it in-case I don't have Isochron Scepter Buy in my hand. and I changed back to 4 Mountain Buy instead of using Stomping Grounds to prevent anti-non-basic-land cards from rendering my spells useless. hehehe and thanks chocobox for suggesting Simian Spirit Guide Buy but I'm having problems which card to switch it with.....hehehehe

Last Modified: 4/30/2009 3:53:53 PM     


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samskipsam   4/26/2009 9:16:40 PM
Looks like fun.

Add a blitz hellion or two once the new set comes out. It'll work well with the disk and is a ramp-up from ball lightning!

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raingump   4/28/2009 2:58:18 AM
Try adding Cosmic Larva instead of Ball Lightning, that will take care of those wienie and give you the option to keep him around in case you need it.

Last Modified: 4/28/2009 3:00:13 AM     


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crimsonking001   4/28/2009 12:50:09 PM
Nice suggestions Good samskipsam and raingump. But I'll think about adding and or swap some of the cards in my deck with Blitz Hellion Buy and Cosmic Larva Buy. My deck is quite sensitive when it comes to the casting costs of the cards and sacrificing lands without directly damaging my opponent. But I'll try it though. Thanks!

Last Modified: 5/10/2009 3:18:35 PM     


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aznepyon7   4/28/2009 6:17:45 PM
I'd drop Goblin Vandal for Gorilla Shaman (2) Buy maindecked or Shattering Spree Buy. Note that Shattering spree can bypass Chalice of the Void Buy and most counters if you use the replicate ability.

Disk is powerful but out of context with the deck. If you want to play sligh, stick with sligh and don't try to add in control elements that aren't useful. If you are trying a Red Mountain Wins deck, you'll be better off with stuff like Cursed Scroll Buy, Magus of the Scroll Buy, and Magus of the Moon Buy. Cursed Scroll might be really useful when you are out of burns.

Shock is perhaps one of the worst burn ever made. Surely you can think of a better burn? Lava Spike Buy, Chain Lightning Buy, Magma Spray Buy, Seal of Fire Buy are all better.

Up fireblast count to 3. I would also drop Jaya. She really sucks.

I would use Chrome Mox Buy if you want speed.

Pyrokinesis Buy is very good for early game and against tokens. Also good is Pyroclasm Buy or Volcanic Fallout Buy.

I also wouldn't bother with Reckless Abandon. The 1 point extra damage isn't worth the saccing a creature, even if its Ball Lightning. That will require you 4 mana.

Wheel of Fortune Buy is quite nice.

You also don't have enough artifacts to sustain Sharpnel Blast to a reliable degree.

If you splash in black instead of green, I highly suggest Dark Confidant Buy. They are better than even the tutors in this deck. Very, very powerful.

If you stick with green, I'd go with Tarmogoyf Buy.

My overall suggestion:

-3 Sharpnel Blast
-3 Shock
-3 Goblin Vandal
-3 Reckless Abandon
-1 Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
-2 Nevinyrral's Disk
-2 Sulfuric Vortex

+3 Mountain
+3 Chain Lightning
+3 Shattering Spree
+3 Cursed Scroll
+1 Fireblast
+3 Pyrokinesis
+1 Wheel of Fortune

Last Modified: 4/28/2009 6:43:09 PM     


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crimsonking001   4/28/2009 7:18:10 PM
hey aznepyon7 thanks for the rate and for the advice man Good. I'll definitely try those options. Big help man! Big help! My friends and I are about to join a tournament for vintage in my area and your suggestions will definitely help! Thanks man! Good

Last Modified: 4/28/2009 8:23:12 PM     


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Aparadochs   4/29/2009 8:34:31 PM
looks like a pretty versatile deck as far as burn goes. it seems like a pretty good idea to splash green for naturalize, but you might want to look into some other cards with green in their cost for the deck.

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teod17_3   5/1/2009 6:36:56 PM
Theres some work that can be put in this deck my friend have one that beated the crap outa most of my non-control deck for a while, heres some tip :
Shock and incenerate could be replaced by some more efficient 1 mana costed spell, there is ALOT of 3 dmg to any target for 1 Happy.

I suggest u find some magma jet, those are life saver.

Nevyneral disk and isochron are a waste of ur time, put more shrapnel blast even some fork for those yummy land sacrifice high dmg spell.

Holwing mine is ok i guess, but browbeat is as dangerous n beter for ur style.

Ur deck use creature, some i saw use none only burning spell toward openent. Wich make the removal card in openent hand Absolutely useless but its up to u, i like creature too so Happy but keep in mind that if u use creature use 8 or more or else all u will do is give a reason to exist for all those creature removal Happy.

Hope this helped Happy enjoy

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crimsonking001   5/2/2009 1:44:16 PM
thanks for the rate teod17_3 Good. Yes, I have tried using a pure burn deck before but I always get knocked out of vintage / type 1 tournaments on the second and if I get lucky on the third round. Thats the reason why I made my burn deck more adaptable. But your suggestion is a big help also. But the thing is with using Magma Jet Buy is that its {1}{R} its a bit expensive when it only deals 2 damage but its scrying ability is a big thing specially at the latter parts of a game. But I will try using it. Thanks again man!

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dark destroyer   5/8/2009 3:02:45 PM
thanks for rolling thunder might do that but its infinate with fire ball and the world gorger any way..

like the deck feel you could use goblin tinkerer in place of vandal you can use it when ever instead of having to attack but it does cost 1 more mana than vandal. jaya you cou8ld realy get rid of, discarding your spells for an incinerate not realy worth it to me. sort of the same with lavamancer but you do use alot of spells right away so its a 50/50. i would also up the fireblast to 4 and add 4 fork very efficent combo there 8 dmg for 2 mana huge! i would get rid of the shrapnels as well like commented before not enough of the worthy aritfacts to destroy. maybe throw in crucible of worlds if your afraid of the land loss with cosmic larva adds into the land destruction with the strip mine as well overall though not a bad deck kinda want to play you with my burn still need a few cards but other wise i think it would be a good match up.

Last Modified: 5/8/2009 3:13:47 PM     


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pradz   5/10/2009 2:22:51 AM
You've gotten some good comments. I'm a casual player and don't play tornaments, but I'll throw in my 2 cents worth...

Isochron Scepter is a great card, but is really hurt by blue bounce which is very common now where I play. If you are going to use it, I recommend fire/ice so you can kill weenies or tap and draw.

If you want speed, I would put in more cheap creatures. If you want to destroy artifacts, ancient grudge is good and you have green for the flashback. Tin street hooligan can work too.

I also like rite of flame to get ball lightning out faster or cast browbeat. Otherwise other people have probably given you the most usefull advise.

Last Modified: 5/10/2009 2:38:52 AM     


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ChR0n0x   5/10/2009 2:43:47 PM
Hey pretty sweet deck. I'm going to assume you arn't putting 4 of certain cards in because you don't own them.

Not a big fan of wooded foothills seems like you have those forests just for naturalize, which is in your sideboard but its up to you.

You might want to find a substitute for Reckless abandon since all your creatures are pretty valuable. Other than that great deck!

Last Modified: 5/10/2009 2:45:36 PM     



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