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pain   12/14/2013 8:47:45 PM
exile

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Ajani Goldmane   12/31/2013 3:16:06 AM
Love Splinter Twin decks!!! This one is awesome!!! Love the addition of Spellskite great idea.

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ghostfire86Artice Submitter   12/31/2013 4:16:48 AM
Deck overall is very solid.

I do wonder if you intended it to be 61 cards.

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Ricosaurnew   12/31/2013 10:25:15 AM
This looks like a pretty solid twin deck to me, from what I can see this deck is set up to win through the twin combo only so it might be worth swapping the bolts for flame slash?

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remus1977   1/7/2014 2:37:16 PM
I love the deck and I have played against a similar one. my only comment is that is a lot of fetch lands. I would cut it by 2.

thanks for the rate.

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tRuCkErStEvE   1/13/2014 11:12:09 PM
Pretty straight forward, I would love to see a custom Infinity token!

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Olaf Forkbeard   1/14/2014 8:07:24 PM
I support the comment of adding Flame Slash Buy to your deck for killing opposing Spellskite Buy.

To cut you down to 60 you either need to drop a Spellskite Buy or a Lightning Bolt Buy. And in both cases I support the idea of a split of Flame Slash and Bolts leaning in Bolts favor for it is instant speed.

So I guess what I'm saying is do one of the following:

-1 Spellskite Buy
-2 Lightning Bolt Buy
+2 Flame Slash Buy

Or

-2 Lightning Bolt Buy
+1 Flame Slash Buy

Simply put, it gives you a main board out if they mainboarded Spellskite Buy.

If you are looking for help with your sideboard we need to know your meta. The sideboard is literally designed for that. Add it to the description and I'll eventually be back to update my rate.

Seems like a Tier 1 deck to me.

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ghostfire86Artice Submitter   1/15/2014 12:04:01 PM
While I do agree that the deck should come down to 60 cards I am not worried about it either.

Mainly I wish to comment on the subject of Flame Slash Buy for control of Spellskite Buy. I personally think the inclusion of it is a horrible idea. While Lightning Bolt Buy will not kill a Spellskite Buy it does kill everything else in the game it needs to including the opponent while at the same time holds onto a flexibility of play not seen by any other burn spell in the Eternal of MTG.

Also the inclusion on just a single copy of Flame Slash Buy is ridiculous to suggest seeing there is such a low probability of drawing into it the turn before or of that you would need it. This deck as the ability to dig for it but now resources are being wasted on a single card that most likely will not appear before you tap out and concede your turn to the opponent.

Keep in mind that 3 copies of snapecaster mage are also in this so a second lightning bolt can easily be played as flashback to kill the [card]spellskite. I do recognized this will give a card advantage to the opponent but it is only "IF" the opponent is running Spellskite Buy. My local meta is not running it at all for instance.

There is also the 4 copies of Remand Buy to keep Spellskite Buy off the board temporarily. Also there are 3 copies of Ancient Grudge Buy, 4 copies of Echoing Truth Buy, and 2 copies of Dismember Buy in the sideboard to adjust as needed for game 2 and if need be game 3. I think he is well covered in this area of discussion.

Lastly I know of only one deck design that is running a play set main or otherwise. Most net decks are running 2-3 between main and side. Twin Exarch is an extremely condensed and extremely fast hitting deck that "Should" land kill before the opponent lands use of Spellskite Buy.

By the way Uchiha Itachi I do love the inclusion of Swan Song Buy. Great touch to this deck. You have your bases covered well with this deck and I don't really want to see anything change with it.

Last Modified: 1/15/2014 12:25:03 PM     


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Olaf Forkbeard   1/15/2014 10:49:18 PM
You know, I had forgotten Spellskite Buy was also an artifact. With this in mind I fully support the comment above due to your sideboard Ancient Grudge Buy. And my suggested cut simply becomes 1 of your own Spellskite Buy.

Quoting ghostfire86:Also the inclusion on just a single copy of Flame Slash Buy is ridiculous to suggest seeing there is such a low probability of drawing into it the turn before or of that you would need it. This deck as the ability to dig for it but now resources are being wasted on a single card that most likely will not appear before you tap out and concede your turn to the opponent.


I happen to disagree that the probability is that low with 8 cantrips in the deck. Funny thing about blue is that it always seems to find what your looking for. Also the turn you need it may have to wait if they are sitting with the Spellskite Buy and a slower clock, or even a relatively fast one. Most people kill you in a couple of hits, not 1 super hit. As for finding the card, think of Delver's sideboard from old Standard. It played a host of 1 of's in the sideboard to bring in and it could find them off of only 4 Ponder Buy. You provide an excellent point of course that the OP is playing a combo deck and could just outright try to win. I personally believe it is left to opinion and not "Strictly Better" or "Strictly Worse" to run the Flame Slash Buy main as simply having the out available is relevant, because it is possible. card inclusions in respect to winning from behind, not when winning when everything is working fine.

Also, the Splinter Twin deck in my area has replaced his Lightning Bolt Buy with Boomerang Buy and is seeing good results.

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Kinson   1/26/2014 4:12:55 AM
Nothing we haven't seen before. however just because you're not inovating the next big thing doesn't mean it's not good. this archtype is tried and trued. it works. on side note I'd like to see those bommerang become echoing truth it'd help more against token decks. solid build, well done.

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MaritLage   2/8/2014 2:55:41 AM
love the mirror breaker consider magma jet

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Coldhands   2/11/2014 12:29:08 AM
I'm an idiot... I was gonna recommend Pestermite until I realised you had it already. Have you seen the Felhide Spiritbinder Buy - Priest of Urabrask Buy combo? Needs Aura of Dominion Buy too, feels similar to this. Good work Batman Happy

Please can you take a look at my Drawbond deck, let me know what you think?

http://essentialmagic.com/decks/View.asp?ID=903096

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SocksofGranduer   2/20/2014 12:29:36 PM
Volcanic Fallout Buy should be considered alongside Pyroclasm Buy or Anger of the Gods Buy as well, with the unbanning of Bitterblossom Buy. I haven't played in a tournament in a while though.

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Tadkins472   3/1/2014 12:07:10 PM
I like this Deck alot it i have never seen a deck use so much flash that's awesome. I would definitely add Leyline of Sanctity Buy to the side board especially if you are playing a U control deck that could completely shut them out.

Also kind of curious why you are running Breeding Pool Buy instead of something like Chromatic Lantern Buy.

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Deathstar Inc   3/2/2014 8:10:01 AM
Looks solid. But whats with the breeding pools?

Please have a look at my Red-Blue Owling Deck of Shah. Let me know if you think its playable or just a laugh:

http://www.essentialmagic.com/decks/View.asp?ID=1005899

Last Modified: 3/2/2014 8:11:54 AM     



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