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ricomyer
 
Joined: 6/16/2003 Quote: Wherever you go, there you are.
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New Combo System
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3/25/2012 3:57:25 PM |
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Hey we upgraded our combo system. Our strict criteria has been loosened to allow for combos which could be called card synergy or as part of a deck strategy, but not necessarily a completely unique interaction. You will strive to have your combos rated "Guru Approved", but if not, no biggie they will not be invalid anymore unless they are really sucky.  Let me know what you think, or if you see problems. Ricomyer eM Webmaster
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bleep
Joined: 9/13/2010
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What is a committee? A group of the unwilling, picked from the unfit, to do the unnecessary.
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RE: New Combo System | 3/25/2012 4:42:55 PM |
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I can only say one thing.. HALLELUJAH! Good going! Edit: Should edit my sig now... ----------------------------------------------------------- Favorite card: Eater of the Dead Buy Post your synergies here The Synergy Page Promote the Synergy section! (\__/) ( o.O) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into (")_(") your signature, to help him gain World Domination. --> The Game <--
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Æther Tech
Joined: 8/28/2009 Quote: Are you sure you wan't to pump up your Thornling after I've declared my Abyssal Persecutor as a blocker?
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RE: RE: New Combo System | 3/26/2012 1:42:50 AM |
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Rite of Replication + Hamletback Giant is a GURU approved combo? might want to GURU Approve ALL my combos then. 
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evileskimocal
Joined: 4/13/2004
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"When Marge isn't happy, I'm not happy. And when I'm not happy, Moe's very happy. But for once, this isn't about Moe."
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RE: RE: RE: New Combo System | 3/26/2012 1:58:58 AM |
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Your combos are all guru-approved already. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Magic Rules Advisor AIM: clanlsg 2010 eMmies: Nicest Member 2009 eMmies: Most Likely to be Mod 2008 eMmies: Nicest Member, Best Sig, Funniest Member, Most Likely to be Mod <(-'.'-)> Q(-'.'-Q) <(-'.'-<) (>-'.'-)> O==(-.-Q) t(-'.'-t) 
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Æther Tech
Joined: 8/28/2009 Quote: Are you sure you wan't to pump up your Thornling after I've declared my Abyssal Persecutor as a blocker?
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RE: RE: RE: RE: New Combo System | 3/26/2012 3:36:38 AM |
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Your combos are all guru-approved already.[/quote] Then something is wrong with the system.
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evileskimocal
Joined: 4/13/2004
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"When Marge isn't happy, I'm not happy. And when I'm not happy, Moe's very happy. But for once, this isn't about Moe."
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: New Combo System | 3/26/2012 3:48:33 AM |
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"Guru-approved combo" is just the new term for "valid combo." Valid combos are now guru-approved combos, and what used to be labeled as invalid could now either be synergy or invalid. So if you think you posted some combos that don't deserve to be labeled as "guru-approved," let me know and I can invalidate them or move them to the synergy section. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Magic Rules Advisor AIM: clanlsg 2010 eMmies: Nicest Member 2009 eMmies: Most Likely to be Mod 2008 eMmies: Nicest Member, Best Sig, Funniest Member, Most Likely to be Mod <(-'.'-)> Q(-'.'-Q) <(-'.'-<) (>-'.'-)> O==(-.-Q) t(-'.'-t)
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bleep
Joined: 9/13/2010
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What is a committee? A group of the unwilling, picked from the unfit, to do the unnecessary.
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: New Combo System | 3/26/2012 1:14:57 PM |
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I like it to be honest! It just shows that the criteria for a combo CAN ACTUALLY BE SOMEWHAT MILDER. A.T. Is just p*ssed that we won't have to use his acronym anymore ^^ ----------------------------------------------------------- Favorite card: Eater of the Dead Buy Post your synergies here The Synergy Page Promote the Synergy section! (\__/) ( o.O) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into (")_(") your signature, to help him gain World Domination. --> The Game <--
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Sacred Vision
Joined: 10/15/2004 Quote: I am a master. You are a student. Sit, listen, learn, utilize.
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RE: New Combo System | 3/26/2012 2:28:58 PM |
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I am really happy to see this. People know that I have been lobbying and wanting this for a long time. I think I am getting misty. I want to sing "we shall overcome!!" A lot of what I do is geared towards making the game better as a whole...and now *sniff*, my kids have a place where they can post a combo without the hate and fear of getting a TINAC. Long live Guru Approved. Goodbye to TINAC. Let there be peace on the combo page. Happy Happy Joy Joy. OH, Can we please have a checkbox that allows us to select Deck Strategy (DSt), or Deck Synergy (DSy) to the combo creation page. I think this will help the gurus go through the approval steps as well as educate those that post to notice difference between the types. I think the Deck Strat page should eventually be taken down, because you'll have plenty of people going in claming they created a strategy and posting it. I'm going in and getting all my stuff now.
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Brute Conquest
Joined: 6/24/2004
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"Knowledge is Power. Wisdom is Superpower."
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RE: RE: New Combo System | 3/27/2012 12:29:11 AM |
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I have noticed that there are "old" combos that are more appropriately classified as deck synergy. Primarily, the end effect that these combos have are relatively simple and their card interactions are not so unique. Here are some examples: Fancy Discarding (Brink of Madness Buy + Suppress Buy) Making your opponent discard his/her hand for two cards and seven mana is perhaps better achieved by a single Wit's End Buy. Infinite Mana V 2.0 (Crystal Quarry Buy + Mishra's Groundbreaker Buy + Power Artifact Buy + Pemmin's Aura Buy) Is a four-card combo that generates infinite mana still considerable, if in the first place, you need a fifth card to use that infinite mana? Thats the spirit! (Spirit Link Buy + Orcish Artillery Buy) Dealing 2 damage to target creature and gaining 2 life PER TURN seems not so much worthy of assembling two cards to work together. Steal creatures! (Mother of Runes Buy + Custody Battle Buy) Stealing a creature permanently can be achieved by any aura cards that grab opponent creatures like Mind Control Buy. I noticed that this combo can work as early as 2nd turn but still seems the interaction is not unique. Lands bad kill kill kill muhahaha (Ravenous Baloth Buy + Petravark Buy) Exiling a land using two cards is much acceptable with Caustic Rain Buy. Although gaining 4 life is still a good bargain. draw + damage [2] (Unholy Grotto Buy + Gempalm Polluter Buy) "  ,  : Target opponent loses 1 life for each Zombie in play" appears to be an excellent deck winning strategy, but not quite a unique interaction to be labeled as a combo.A False Sense of Winning (Tempting Wurm Buy + Jokulhaups Buy) The point of the combo is to destroy all permanents (except enchantments) and to "destroy" your opponents' cards in hands (if they were tempted to put them into the battlefield). Why not just cast discard spells against them, like Mind Twist Buy, Mind Shatter Buy or Wit's End Buy? Multi-Color Cabal (Blanket of Night Buy + Cabal Coffers Buy)  , : Add to your mana pool for each land you control. It really appears "weak" and not so unique.land discard/pump up - Please comment (Rites of Spring Buy + Nantuko Cultivator Buy + Terravore Buy) Discarding land cards to pump your creatures is indeed a deck strategy featured in a popular green deck on this site. Then again, the interaction among them is not really unique. These combos received high ratings in the past, which actually made them popular. Right now they are classified as Guru Approved combos. Of course I respect the Gurus' approval of these combos, but I observed that they still lack the essential requirements of being a combo. I believe that such "combos" should be reviewed and reclassified if necessary. I appreciate the New Combo System on Essential Magic. Now more people would be satisfied and encouraged to think of card interactions, whether unique or not, and post them in the combo section. 
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