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Zelektor Trasztam Joined: 8/15/2010 Quote: [none]	Pre release question	4/27/2012 9:16:02 PM
	on a pre-release (like avacyn's) we're building a deck out of 6 booster packs, but after opening all boosters, we have to write down all the cards and then put them (and the list) inside a plastic bag and its distributed back randomly to all players. my question is, what if i picked like 4 planeswalkers and a temporal mastery/legendary angel out of those 6 boosters, that looks like crazy ''profit'' and, i know its considered a badplay but i wanted to know if the person can just say hes gonna drop out of the prerelease and keep the cards he picked out of those 6 packs once during my league nearby, on an Innistrad 3 booster draft, the guy picked a Snapcaster Mage Buy and just said ''im leaving now then, i got what i wanted'' ty


Zelektor Trasztam Joined: 8/15/2010 Quote: [none]	Random Comment	4/27/2012 9:23:23 PM
	I mean, drop out BEFORE listing the cards and putting them in bag


cable9577 Joined: 2/9/2011 Quote: Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are small and taste good with ketchup.	Random Comment	4/27/2012 11:23:13 PM
	I and a friend who is a Lvl 1 Judge have talked about this possibility many times. You open the super-packs and have no interest in not getting those cards. As far as we can tell, there is no DCI rule that would prevent you from dropping. If the packs were good enough (a single Snapcaster isnt), I doubt anyone would even complain much about it, who doesnt want to open that group of cards.


Shizukanashi Joined: 3/6/2011 Quote: www.Ankhet.com come play a fun forum based game. Tell them Shizu sent you!	RE: Pre release question	4/28/2012 7:43:38 AM
	I agree and infact have seen it happen. There are some that would probably consider it bad sportsmanship, but there is no rule against it, and I would not hold it against anyone who pulled 2 planeswalkers and a Temporal Mastery or something equally epic.


HunterZero Joined: 1/15/2002 Quote: "For the first time in his life, Grakk felt a little warm and fuzzy inside."	RE: RE: Pre release question	4/30/2012 1:56:55 AM
	You could look at it this way - Technically before the deck swap, the cards aren't yours. The cards still belong to the tournament organisers. You are registering the product for the organiser before they are redistributed to another (yet to be randomly determined) player in the tournament who will own the cards. While there is nothing in the floor rules to specifically cover this scenario, and you'd probably be able to get away with it, it would be frowned upon. What if all players who received valuable cards did this? The tournament rules do say that a player who drops before fulfilling deck registration receives a recorded match loss in the first round against them, which is about the only deterrent. But it doesn't say what happens to the product that player opened. It seems to imply that since the dropping player didn't register the cards they opened, the tournament organiser simply doesn't collect them. Quoting Tournament Rules: 7.5 Sealed Deck Swap In Sealed Deck tournaments, the Head Judge may require players to perform a deck swap prior to deck construction. Players receive unopened product and register the contents (except non-foil basic land cards) on decklists. Foil basic land cards must be registered and kept with the registered card pool. Any card in a booster that is not a card from the expansion of the opened booster is retained by the player that registers the cards (e.g., a player that registers the contents of a booster during a deck swap keeps the token card, if any). Players who drop from the tournament before fulfilling this duty will receive a match loss in the first round. Tournament officials then collect the recorded card pools and redistribute them randomly. A player may randomly receive the product he or she registered. The Head Judge should require players to sort the cards they register according to some criteria (e.g. by color and then alphabetically) to assist the player receiving the pool. - HZ DCI MTG Rules Advisor


Æther Tech Joined: 8/28/2009 Quote: Are you sure you wan't to pump up your Thornling after I've declared my Abyssal Persecutor as a blocker?	RE: Pre release question	4/30/2012 3:31:15 PM
	Quoting Zelektor Trasztam:on a pre-release (like avacyn's) we're building a deck out of 6 booster packs, but after opening all boosters, we have to write down all the cards and then put them (and the list) inside a plastic bag and its distributed back randomly to all players. my question is, what if i picked like 4 planeswalkers and a temporal mastery/legendary angel out of those 6 boosters, that looks like crazy ''profit'' and, i know its considered a badplay but i wanted to know if the person can just say hes gonna drop out of the prerelease and keep the cards he picked out of those 6 packs once during my league nearby, on an Innistrad 3 booster draft, the guy picked a Snapcaster Mage Buy and just said ''im leaving now then, i got what i wanted'' ty I have never heard of this style of drafting...seems to be pretty shity way to go.


bleep Joined: 9/13/2010 Quote: What is a committee? A group of the unwilling, picked from the unfit, to do the unnecessary. Mark Twain --------------- Knowledge is power. Hide it well. --------------- An open mind is like a fortress, with its gates unbarred and unguarded.	RE: RE: Pre release question	5/2/2012 7:15:49 AM
	@ our pre-release, you keep the cards that you open o.O I wouldn't even participate otherwise. ----------------------------------------------------------- Favorite card: Eater of the Dead* Buy* Post your synergies here The Synergy Page Promote the Synergy section! (\__/) ( o.O) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into (")_(") your signature, to help him gain World Domination. --> *The Game* <--


HunterZero Joined: 1/15/2002 Quote: "For the first time in his life, Grakk felt a little warm and fuzzy inside."	RE: RE: Pre release question	5/2/2012 7:26:08 AM
	Quoting Æther Tech:I have never heard of this style of drafting...seems to be pretty shity way to go. This wasn't a draft, it was sealed deck. Depending on your tournament organisers, deck swaps may be common, or hardly used at all. Deck swaps have been pretty common at sealed/pre-release tournaments I've been to. Normally they don't do deck swap for the first flight of players to receive the new cards, but for subsequent flights where there's a possibility of cheating by sneaking other cards into your pool they will do a deck swap. Back in the Betrayers of Kamigawa pre-release in the first pod I played in, I remember opening my boosters to see an Umezawa's Jitte Buy looking back at me. I hadn't seen the card before, but was still gobsmacked how crazy powerful it was. Then they announced there would be a deck swap. Gutted! But as luck would have it, the card pool I got back also contained an Umezawa's Jitte Buy! - HZ DCI MTG Rules Advisor

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