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Banhartday
Joined: 11/11/2004 Quote: [none]
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Random Comment | 7/7/2012 8:20:21 PM |
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That's not correct, reprints like that don't count and Ground Seal Buy isnt Modern legal. Still, for the record, I like Modern. The Modern ban list doesn't make it a bad or restrictive format in the least. Modern isn't missing anything fundamental for the cards in that list in terms of possible decklists. As for combo - checking Modern results shows that combo, while present, isn't dominating. Either way, im pretty invested in Modern so discussion is always good. 
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Cry_Havoc
Joined: 5/15/2003
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"I suppose this is where I confess that I've always loved you! But I don't. I really, really don't!"
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Random Comment | 7/7/2012 9:09:01 PM |
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Actually yes it is. It just got re-printed in Magic 2013. As from the 13th of July it is legal to play it in a modern deck. “Counterspell Buy = stuff any deck/combo up. Force of Will Buy = stuff any deck/combo up with the added bonus of yelling out "surprise"! Remember, nothing in magic is unbeatable.” Please post your Synergies here: The Synergy Page Thank you. (\__/) ( o.O) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into (")_(") your signature, to help him gain World Domination.
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squigis
Joined: 1/5/2006 Quote: [none]
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Random Comment | 7/7/2012 9:59:28 PM |
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The reprint rules for card legality state that any copies of an older edition of a card that's been reprinted in a legal set, are also legal. Also, I'm not saying Modern couldn't be fun, I'm just saying that from a modern card design point of view, there should be more blocks included in modern, namely the ones I mentioned, and that the ban list should only include cards that were previously banned in their native block/T2 environments. I'm even willing to bet that Modern format Ravager affinity decks will become popular at some point, maybe even excessive, but Wotc won't acknowledge their mistake of not banning those cards right off the bat. Sure, it will be a tougher deck to play without artifact lands, but there is a still a huge number of amazing cards for that deck list to be viable. For the record, when I first started playing Magic, Ice Age had just been released, and I had missed out on the ridiculous power of A/B/U and the hefty rules revisions. I had only played briefly, before giving up on being able to fund this game as a hobby at that age. So I came back several years later, and it was Masques block + Invasion/Planeshift for T2. Not long after, Apocalypse and 7th released, and we were in a new block with Odyssey. This combination of sets was the first time the relative power of the cards was spread out evenly between the sets. There were quite a few staple cards from 7th, as well as many many different viable decks. It was at a time when netdecking was new, and most of the good players would strive NOT to netdeck. The metagame revolved around being able to beat netdeck, not milking them for all they were worth. So when I think of 'modern,' I think of that period in magic history, where cards were never even considered to be banned, there was a lot of power spread evenly around, and just about any deck with a good mana curve and synergistic design could compete in the top two tiers. It was a golden age of magic, and it's a shame that period isn't included in the modern format.
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smudge
Joined: 4/26/2004 Quote: [none]
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Random Comment | 7/8/2012 2:06:33 PM |
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I have no idea what you're talking about. As a T2 player between Invasion and Scourge, people netdecked all the time, and they've been doing it all the way back since black summer. Maybe in your little area people were trying to beat the netdecks, but on the national and international scenes, there were only a few top decks and ALL the good/famous players did it. And I'll give you that Invasion to Apocalypse was a sort of golden age for Magic, but Odyssey through Scourge? I mean, I loved those sets, and there's nothing particularly wrong with them, but they represented nothing near golden ages of the game. And 7th edition was considered complete garbage when it came out. Everyone hated it, from the design down to the art.
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squigis
Joined: 1/5/2006 Quote: [none]
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Random Comment | 7/8/2012 5:57:00 PM |
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7th edition had all the really good staple cards. Duress, Counterspell, Wrath of God, Birds of Paradise, ect. The other part of it was that the basic archetype decks of magic were all prevalent/viable back then. And of course people net decked, but it wasn't mandatory like it has been for so many years. You could sit down, come up with a good deck idea, get the cards for it, and take it a 1st place finish in any tournament. You didn't have to play what was popular at the time, and that is why it was a golden age. Now, I will admit that Onslaught block kinda stirred up the MTG scene because of how powerful the mechanics ended up being, but even then, basic archetypes were still viable. Odyssey block introduced some really good mechanics and added a lot of viable cards to deck lists. I remember playing U/B control variant and MBC a lot back then, and it was a very good time indeed.
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Banhartday
Joined: 11/11/2004 Quote: [none]
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Random Comment | 7/9/2012 2:26:15 PM |
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If it's reprinted in a core set then yes, what I understood the comment to imply was that any reprint with the modern border would be modern legal, which wouldn't be the case. Examples would be cards like Mother of Runes Buy or say, Armadillo Cloak Buy which have been reprinted with a modern border in Commander products. So we're both right about different things haha, my bad for the misunderstanding guys.
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