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MagestoneMagus
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5/22/2017 6:13:02 PM |
I control a Necroskitter Buy. I cast a Soul Snuffers Buy then follow it up with Damnation Buy. Do I gain control of all my opponents creatures that survived the Snuffers? Is there some rule that can clarify etb and ltb triggers? Specifically entering and leaving at the same time as a Permanent with the etb or ltb ability. Thanks for the help ![]() ---------------------------------------- LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!!!
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Mallys
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RE: Necroskitter | 5/23/2017 3:55:10 AM |
Yes to everything. Most everything you need is in section 603 in the rules, on triggered abilities. For the main question, we see that Because Necroskitter Buy has a leaves-the-battlefield ability (603.6c), we have to look back just before the event (Damnation Buy's effect in this case) to see what will trigger during the event. Even though it's dying at the same time, Necroskitter Buy will "see" all the withered creatures dying as well and trigger appropriately. Conveniently, the given example in the rules is a very similar situation. We can also derive from this rule that just after an event (like objects entering the battlefield), we should look around and see if anything should trigger. So if multiple creatures enter the battlefield simultaneously, any EtB triggers (including those on the new creatures) will see all of the creatures and trigger appropriately. -------------------- Comprehensive Rules --- Gatherer --- Tournament Rules
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MagestoneMagus
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Re | 5/23/2017 3:33:25 PM |
Thanks for all the information. Is there a more simple explanation? Kinda like the bow and arrow example that gets used for activated abilities. ---------------------------------------- LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!!!
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Mallys
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RE: Re | 5/23/2017 7:42:35 PM |
There might be a more creative person that can put a cute metaphor together, but I can't think of something offhand. Most situations work more-or-less intuitively, but there are some quirky exceptions that throw a wrench into things. -------------------- Comprehensive Rules --- Gatherer --- Tournament Rules
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MagestoneMagus
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RE: RE: Re | 5/24/2017 6:15:00 AM |
I couldn't think of a way to explain it either. Thanks for all you do ![]() (The links in your sig are still very useful) ---------------------------------------- LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!!!
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MagestoneMagus
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RE: Re: | 1/3/2018 6:07:35 PM |
To follow up, I assume this same rule works for The Scorpion God Buy? Should I make a new thread for The Scorpion God Buy? ---------------------------------------- LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!!!
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Mallys
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RE: RE: Re: | 1/4/2018 1:03:58 AM |
A new thread isn't generally a bad idea, but this is a pretty similar situation. In any case, as you might expect, the result ends up being the same. The Scorpion God Buy will see other creatures dying at the same time it dies. -------------------- Comprehensive Rules --- Gatherer --- Tournament Rules
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